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NL25: AK, 3B pre-flop ou call?

Mendez — Mon, 29 Aug 2011 00:52:04 GMT

Boas malta,

Jogavam de outra maneira?

villan stats: 22/8/11.

$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by [b][url=http://weaktight.com/]weaktight.com[/url][/b]

[b]Stacks:[/b]
UTG naveenb123 ([color=blue]$13.05[/color])
UTG+1 xuhongming ([color=blue]$24.44[/color])
[b]MP1 asangfreda ([color=blue]$27.72[/color]) [/b]
MP2 unicornfarts ([color=blue]$38.10[/color])
CO KRAZ21 ([color=blue]$25[/color])
[b]BTN mendezpt ([color=blue]$17.49[/color]) [/b]
SB kicker71 ([color=blue]$24.62[/color])
BB TSpecial_One ([color=blue]$45.67[/color])

[b]Pre-Flop:[/b] ([color=blue][b]$0.35[/b][/color], 8 players) [b]mendezpt is BTN[/b]
[color=grey][i]2 folds[/i][/color], [color=red][b]asangfreda raises to $0.75[/b][/color], [color=grey][i]2 folds[/i][/color], [color=red][b]mendezpt raises to $2.20[/b][/color], [color=grey][i]2 folds[/i][/color], asangfreda calls $1.45

[b]Flop:[/b] ([color=blue][b]$4.75[/b][/color], 2 players)
[color=red][b]asangfreda bets $1[/b][/color], [color=red][b]mendezpt raises to $3[/b][/color], asangfreda calls $2

[b]Turn:[/b] ([color=blue][b]$10.75[/b][/color], 2 players)
[color=red][b]asangfreda bets $1.50[/b][/color], [color=grey][i]mendezpt folds[/i][/color]

[b]Final Pot:[/b] [color=blue][b]$12.25[/b][/color]

asangfreda wins $11.73 (net +$5.03)

mendezpt lost $5.20

NL100 SH: Overpair IP

Moreno AA — Tue, 05 Jul 2011 07:27:52 GMT

Kh Kc

Sem informação do villain dado que chegou há pouco à mesa. Pelo tamanho das bets parece-me que sabe o que faz.

Hold'em No Limit €0.50/€1.00
PokerStars
6 players

Stacks:
UTG - (100)
MP - (166)
CO - (106)
BTN - Hero (100)
SB - (79)
BB - (103.07)

Preflop: (1.5, 6 players) Hero is BTN with
3 folds, Hero raises to 3, 1 fold, BB calls 2

Flop: (6.5, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 4, BB raises to 14, Hero calls 10

Turn: (34.5, 2 players)
BB bets 22

Total Pot : 56.5

Hero?

NL50 SH: TPGK IP

Moreno AA — Tue, 05 Jul 2011 07:13:58 GMT

Ac Jd

O villain parece-me um fish com 62/25, af 1.8, afq 40 em 100 mãos

Hold'em No Limit €0.25/€0.50
PokerStars
5 players

Stacks:
UTG - (55.29)
CO - Hero (83.63)
BTN - (50)
SB - (48.07)
BB - (159.26)

Preflop: (0.75, 5 players) Hero is CO with
1 fold, Hero raises to 1.50, 2 folds, BB calls 1

Flop: (3.25, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 2, BB calls 2

Turn: (7.25, 2 players)
BB bets 2, Hero calls 2

River: (11.25, 2 players)
BB bets 10

Total Pot : 21.25

Hero?

NL50 SH: Top set fraquinho?

Moreno AA — Tue, 05 Jul 2011 07:19:43 GMT

5c 5h

Sem informação do villain a não ser que entra com 50 bb de buy-in.

Hold'em No Limit €0.25/€0.50
PokerStars
6 players

Stacks:
UTG - (53.10)
MP - Hero (123.43)
CO - (50)
BTN - (25.76)
SB - (37.65)
BB - (53.58)

Preflop: (0.75, 6 players) Hero is MP with
UTG raises to 1.35, Hero calls 1.35, CO calls 1.35, BTN calls 1.35, SB calls 1.10, 1 fold

Flop: (7.25, 5 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 5, 1 fold, BTN calls 5, SB folds, UTG folds

Turn: (17.25, 2 players)

Total Pot : 17.25

Hero?

NL25: mais um AK

Spez — Wed, 29 Jun 2011 02:25:24 GMT

Ac Kc

$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by [b][url=http://weaktight.com/]weaktight.com[/url][/b]

[b]Stacks:[/b]
[b]UTG jbu2580 ([color="#0000cc"]$10.72[/color]) [/b]
[b]UTG+1 spez ([color="#0000cc"]$27.14[/color]) [/b]
MP1 xxarwenxx ([color="#0000cc"]$25.90[/color])
MP2 RemixQ ([color="#0000cc"]$24.51[/color])
CO Rad1kal ([color="#0000cc"]$25[/color])
BTN gusti2727 ([color="#0000cc"]$31.52[/color])
SB NicolaiAbrami ([color="#0000cc"]$28[/color])
[b]BB ow420 ([color="#0000cc"]$26.71[/color]) [/b]

[b]Pre-Flop:[/b] ([color="#0000cc"][b]$0.35[/b][/color], 8 players) [b]spez is UTG+1[/b] K:club: A:club:
jbu2580 calls $0.25, [color="#cc0000"][b]spez raises to $1[/b][/color], [color="#777777"][i]5 folds[/i][/color], ow420 calls $0.75, [color="#777777"][i]jbu2580 folds[/i][/color]

[b]Flop:[/b] A:spade: 4:club: Q:spade: ([color="#0000cc"][b]$2.35[/b][/color], 2 players)
[color="#cc0000"][b]ow420 bets $1.75[/b][/color], [color="#cc0000"][b]spez raises to $5[/b][/color], ow420 calls $3.25

[b]Turn:[/b] 2:diamond: ([color="#0000cc"][b]$12.35[/b][/color], 2 players)
ow420 checks, [color="#cc0000"][b]spez bets $7[/b][/color], [color="#cc0000"][b]ow420 goes all-in $20.71[/b][/color], spez calls $13.71

[b]River:[/b] J:diamond: ([color="#0000cc"][b]$53.77[/b][/color], 2 players, 1 all-in)

[b]Final Pot:[/b] [color="#0000cc"][b]$53.77[/b][/color]
ow420 shows three of a kind, Queens
Q:heart: Q:club:
spez shows a pair of Aces
K:club: A:club:

ow420 wins $51.09 (net +$24.38)

jbu2580 lost $0.25
spez lost $26.71

A minha questão : Dei call sabendo com um grande grau de certeza que estava batido para 2 pares ou melhor (set), dei call ao jam pelas odds pois metade da stack já estava no pot e podia estar contra outro AK ou uma loucura do vilão, mas a linha deste foi mesmo muito esquisita e cheirou-me logo a esturro quando levo o shove.

Analisando penso que depois do call ao meu raise, no turn deveria ter feito check behind para pot control acabando por pagar uma pequena aposta no river, ou mesmo ter apenas feito um smooth call à donk bet já que se estava em draw só estava a valorizar a minha mão o mesmo para um A pior e se estivesse à frente eu estava em controlo do pote.

Resumindo, soube-me a amargo não por ter o meu AK batido mas por ter criado um pote gigante acabando por dar call ao shove quando tudo me dizia para fazer fold.

Opiniões ? como jogariam o flop ?

NL50 SH: AKo

Moreno AA — Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:19:47 GMT

As Ks

UTG 19/11, fold to 3bet 50 %, 30 afq 1 Af em 100 mãos

Hold'em No Limit €0.25/€0.50
PokerStars
6 players

Stacks:
UTG - (89.29)
MP - (49)
CO - Hero (101.80)
BTN - (15.63)
SB - (46.03)
BB - (50.49)

Preflop: (0.75, 6 players) Hero is CO with
UTG raises to 1, MP calls 1, Hero raises to 4, 3 folds, UTG calls 3, 1 fold

Flop: (9.75, 2 players)
UTG bets 5.46, Hero calls 5.46

Turn: (20.67, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets 13, UTG raises to 49.27

Total Pot : 82.94

Hero?

S&G $1,50: 66 na bb. 8men left

Iron — Tue, 28 Jun 2011 18:06:34 GMT

6h 6c

Sit n go 1.5usd turbo(5m blinds) Pokerstars, pays to 4

8men standing.

blinds 150/300 ant25.

Hero on BB with 66 and 2890 chips left.
Everyone folds till btn who raises all in with 1745 chips.
SB fold.
Pot is 2125 and hero has to pay 1175.

What to do? Call? Fold?

Hero would be with 1715 if called and lost, 5015 if won, 2890 chips with a fold.

I was afraid of 77-AA, 8 hands. I thought it would probably be a flip coin situation.

So, what would u guys do?

Ps: presumo que todos saibam inglês, tinha feito este post num forum estrangeiro e não tive paciência para traduzir.

NL50 SH: AA vs C/R flop

Moreno AA — Sat, 04 Jun 2011 22:50:05 GMT

Ac Ah

BB 21/17/6.5; Af 2.4; C/R flop 1/2; Fold to 3bet 70% em 393 mãos

Hold'em No Limit €0.25/€0.50
PokerStars
5 players

Stacks:
SB - (50.25)
BB - (50)
UTG - (69.59)
CO - (55.21)
BTN - Hero (73.99)

Preflop: (0.75, 5 players) Hero is BTN with
1 fold, CO raises to 1.50, Hero raises to 4.50, 1 fold, BB calls 4, CO calls 3

Flop: (13.75, 3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets 8, BB raises to 19

Total Pot : 40.75

Hero???

No flop nem sei bem que pensar... Qual seria a range do BB para cold 3bet pré-flop? Entre 88 e JJ? Talvez QQ? Frequentemente Ás com um kicker tipo AQo ou AJs.

Tenho o Ás de paus por isso ele não tem o nuts flush draw. Era preciso lata para ele estar no bluff não? Será que ele fez C/R com AQ para value/protecção?

O CO não me preocupa muito porque penso que ele só fez call pré-flop por causa das odds.

Que fariam?

NL100: QQ vs 3bet e cold call

PTAlves — Mon, 06 Jun 2011 15:07:37 GMT

Qs Qc

CO->reg 15/13 com 80% fold a 3bet em 5,5k mãos
BUT->Nit reg 11/9 com 3% 3bet button em 8K mãos
SB->Fish 39/18 com 65% fold to 3bet em 626 mãos

Não sei até que ponto é que os regs sabem que eu costumo fazer cold 4bet light mas com o fish no pote eu quase nunca o vou fazer.

Qual é a linha que seguiriam e porquê?

[b]Full Tilt - $1 PL - Holdem - 8 players[/b]
[i][url=http://www.pokertracker.com]Hand converted by PokerTracker 3[/url][/i]

UTG+1: $94.45
MP: $32.80
MP+1: $104.60
CO: $101.50
BTN: $102.10
[b]SB: $142.50[/b]
[b]Hero (BB): $113.80[/b]
UTG: $100.00

[b]SB[/b] posts SB $0.50, [b]Hero[/b] posts BB $1.00

[b]Pre Flop:[/b] [i]($1.50)[/i] [b]Hero[/b] has Q:spade: Q:club:

[i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [color=red]CO raises to $3.00[/color], [color=red]BTN raises to $10.00[/color], [b]SB[/b] calls $9.50, [color=red][b]Hero[/b][/color] ???????

NL100: 3bet pot, 3ways oop with AA

PTAlves — Thu, 02 Jun 2011 17:19:49 GMT

As Ac

UTG é um fish 53/17/2 com 12% fold a 3bet em 128 mãos
BUT é um reg 15/13/3.5 com 4% 3bet em 5k mãos

[b]Full Tilt - $1 NL - Holdem - 8 players[/b]
[i][url=http://www.pokertracker.com]Hand converted by PokerTracker 3[/url][/i]

[b]Hero (SB): $100.00[/b]
BB: $105.75
[b]UTG: $148.80[/b]
UTG+1: $256.15
MP: $100.00
MP+1: $100.00
CO: $102.50
BTN: $100.00

[b]Hero[/b] posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00

[b]Pre Flop:[/b] [i]($1.50)[/i] [b]Hero[/b] has A:spade: A:club:

[color=red][b]UTG[/b] raises to $2.00[/color], [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [color=red]BTN raises to $7.50[/color], [b]Hero[/b] calls $7.00, [i]fold[/i], [b]UTG[/b] calls $5.50

[b]Flop:[/b] [i]($23.50, 3 players)[/i] 2:spade: 2:heart: Q:heart:
[b]Hero[/b] checks, [b]UTG[/b] checks, BTN checks

[b]Turn:[/b] [i]($23.50, 3 players)[/i] J:spade:
[color=red][b]Hero[/b] bets $12.00[/color], [b]UTG[/b] calls $12.00, [i]fold[/i]

[b]River:[/b] [i]($47.50, 2 players)[/i] Q:diamond:
[color=red][b]Hero[/b] bets $23.00[/color], [b]UTG[/b] calls $23.00

Joguei bue mal esta mão posflop. Acho que donkar flop é provavelmente o melhor e os meus sizes no turn e no river sao uma porcaria tb.

Como é que jogavam esta mão e porquê?

NL50 SH: JJ WTF?

Moreno AA — Wed, 25 May 2011 19:59:53 GMT

Js Jh

BTN tem 25/18, AT to steal 40, Fold to 3 bet 77

SB tem 21/16, 3bet 6

Hold'em No Limit €0.25/€0.50
PokerStars
6 players

Stacks:
UTG - (143.93)
MP - (53)
CO - (18)
BTN - (40)
SB - (92.72)
BB - Hero (80.30)

Preflop: (0.75, 6 players) Hero is BB with
3 folds, BTN raises to 1.50, SB calls 1.25, Hero raises to 6, BTN raises to 15, SB raises to 92.72 (all-in)

Total Pot : 113.97

Hero???

Durante a sessão abusei um bocado do 3bet e tinha intenção de fazer shove se o BTN fizesse 4bet porque ele estava picado mas o SB estragou-me os planos ao fazer shove após ter feito apenas call OOP no raise inicial do BTN.

Penso que esmago frequentemente o range do BTN e relativamente ao SB penso que seria de fish jogar QQ+ desta maneira a não ser que ele tenha a certeza que eu faria squeeze light 100% das vezes. Fiquei intrigado com este spot.

NL50 SH: JJ vs reg decente

Moreno AA — Sun, 22 May 2011 01:35:16 GMT

Jc Jd

O adversário é um bom regular um bocado lag 24/20, 12% 3bet, 64% fold vs 3bet e 11% 4bet.

Hold'em No Limit €0.25/€0.50
PokerStars
6 players

Stacks:
UTG - (20.40)
MP - (58.09)
CO - (53.89)
BTN - (29.42)
SB - (50)
BB - Hero (52.18)

Preflop: (0.75, 6 players) Hero is BB with
2 folds, CO raises to 1.56, 2 folds, Hero raises to 5, CO calls 3.44

Flop: (10.25, 2 players)
Hero bets 6, CO raises to 14

Total Pot : 30.25

Devia carregar no botão de fold? :)

NL50 SH: 99 num pote com 3bet

Moreno AA — Sun, 22 May 2011 02:11:23 GMT

9d 9h

Tenho apenas 20 mãos contra o villain que tem 46/42, 30% de 3bet e afq de 86.

Hold'em No Limit €0.25/€0.50
PokerStars
6 players

Stacks:
UTG - (92.50)
MP - Hero (50)
CO - (55.91)
BTN - (50.75)
SB - (69.32)
BB - (27.11)

Preflop: (0.75, 6 players) Hero is MP with
1 fold, Hero raises to 1.50, 2 folds, SB raises to 4.50, BB calls 4, Hero calls 3

Flop: (13.5, 3 players)
SB bets 6.50, 1 fold, Hero calls 6.50

Turn: (26.5, 2 players)
SB bets 8.50, Hero fold

Total Pot : 26.5

Optei pelo fold. Fiz bem ou poderia ter feito melhor?

NL50 SH: 4bet light correcto?

Moreno AA — Sun, 22 May 2011 01:49:24 GMT

7s 6s

BTN parece-me um fish com um VPIP de 50 e PFR de 24.
BB é um reg decente 24/20, 12% 3bet, 64% fold vs 3bet e 11% 4bet.

Hold'em No Limit €0.25/€0.50
PokerStars
6 players

Stacks:
UTG - (28.18)
MP - (124.07)
CO - Hero (52.49)
BTN - (42.60)
SB - (20)
BB - (100.91)

Preflop: (0.75, 6 players) Hero is CO with
2 folds, Hero raises to 1.50, BTN calls 1.50, 1 fold, BB raises to 6.25, Hero raises to 13

Total Pot : 21

Que acham do 4bet light? Na mesma situação e com um par tipo 88/99/TT preferiam um 4bet/call ou fazer call ao 3bet em posição?

NL5: AA

Fast_cris — Mon, 16 May 2011 00:29:43 GMT

Ah Ac

Olá.. fiz mal em betar river?

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NL Holdem $0.05(BB) Replayer
SB ($0.32)
BB ($1.35)
UTG ($5.08)
UTG+1 ($2.51)
[color=red]Hero ($5)
[/color]MP1 ($6.03)
[color=red]CO ($19.85)
[/color]BTN ($5)

Dealt to Hero A:heart: A:club:

fold, UTG+1 calls $0.05, [color=red]Hero raises to $0.18, [/color]fold, [color=red]CO calls $0.18, [/color]BTN calls $0.18, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $0.13

FLOP ($0.79) T:club: 7:diamond: 5:spade:

UTG+1 checks, [color=red]Hero bets $0.39, CO calls $0.39, [/color]BTN folds, UTG+1 calls $0.39

TURN ($1.96) T:club: 7:diamond: 5:spade: 3:spade:

UTG+1 checks, [color=red]Hero bets $0.98, CO calls $0.98, [/color]UTG+1 calls $0.98

RIVER ($4.90) T:club: 7:diamond: 5:spade: 3:spade: 9:diamond:

UTG+1 checks, [color=red]Hero bets $2.45, CO raises to $4.90, [/color]UTG+1 folds, [color=red]Hero calls $1 (AI)[/color]

NL10: Trinca AA

Fast_cris — Sat, 07 May 2011 00:20:29 GMT

Ac Ad

shove flop foi mau?

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NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
[color=red]Hero ($10)
[/color]BB ($12.85)
UTG ($11.68)
UTG+1 ($10.53)
UTG+2 ($6)
MP1 ($21.33)
[color=red]CO ($9.70)
[/color]BTN ($17.54)

Dealt to Hero A:club: A:diamond:

fold, fold, fold, fold, [color=red]CO calls $0.10, [/color]BTN raises to $0.35, [color=red]Hero raises to $1.10, [/color]fold, [color=red]CO calls $1, [/color]fold

FLOP ($2.65) A:heart: 3:heart: 5:heart:

[color=red]Hero bets $1.50, CO raises to $3, Hero raises to $8.90 (AI), CO calls $5.60 (AI)[/color]

TURN ($19.85) A:heart: 3:heart: 5:heart: 6:heart:

RIVER ($19.85) A:heart: 3:heart: 5:heart: 6:heart: 4:heart:

NL25: flush OOP

Spez — Wed, 04 May 2011 21:45:42 GMT

7s 6s

$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by [b][url=http://weaktight.com/]weaktight.com[/url][/b]

[b]Stacks:[/b]
UTG mongoosee ([color="#0000cc"]$25.58[/color])
UTG+1 AndreyN ([color="#0000cc"]$10.35[/color])
CO ZloiGromila ([color="#0000cc"]$26.80[/color])
BTN Polgar Jeno ([color="#0000cc"]$27.34[/color])
[b]SB spez ([color="#0000cc"]$25.10[/color]) [/b]
[b]BB givemeabreak333 ([color="#0000cc"]$21.76[/color]) [/b]

[b]Pre-Flop:[/b] ([color="#0000cc"][b]$0.35[/b][/color], 6 players) [b]spez is SB[/b] 7:spade: 6:spade:
[color="#777777"][i]4 folds[/i][/color], [color="#cc0000"][b]spez raises to $0.75[/b][/color], givemeabreak333 calls $0.50

[b]Flop:[/b] 5:spade: 5:club: 10:spade: ([color="#0000cc"][b]$1.50[/b][/color], 2 players)
[color="#cc0000"][b]spez bets $1.10[/b][/color], givemeabreak333 calls $1.10

[b]Turn:[/b] 9:spade: ([color="#0000cc"][b]$3.70[/b][/color], 2 players)
[color="#cc0000"][b]spez bets $2.40[/b][/color], [color="#cc0000"][b]givemeabreak333 raises to $10.90[/b][/color], [color="#777777"][i]spez folds[/i][/color]

[b]Final Pot:[/b] [color="#0000cc"][b]$17[/b][/color]

givemeabreak333 wins $16.58 (net +$3.83)

spez lost $4.25

FOLDAVAM ??? (tenho um sabor amargo mas acho que pelo sizing do raise aquilo era muito por valor, estava atrás...mas não perdido :) 1 out para s8flush)

NL100: Rivered TPTK in 3bet pot

PTAlves — Sat, 23 Apr 2011 13:39:36 GMT

Ah Kc

Villan regular: 15/13/3.5 with 87% fold to 3bet and fold to cbet flop 57% and fold to turn cbet 43% in 2800 hands.

[b]Full Tilt - $1 NL - Holdem - 9 players[/b]
[i][url=http://www.pokertracker.com]Hand converted by PokerTracker 3[/url][/i]

UTG+1: $31.10
MP: $119.00
MP+1: $67.50
LP: $111.85
[b]CO: $100.00[/b]
BTN: $100.00
SB: $152.25
[b]Hero (BB): $124.90[/b]
UTG: $100.00

SB posts SB $0.50, [b]Hero[/b] posts BB $1.00

[b]Pre Flop:[/b] [i]($1.50)[/i] [b]Hero[/b] has A:heart: K:club:

[i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [color=red][b]CO[/b] raises to $2.50[/color], [i]fold[/i], SB calls $2.00, [color=red][b]Hero[/b] raises to $10.00[/color], [b]CO[/b] calls $7.50, [i]fold[/i]

[b]Flop:[/b] [i]($22.50, 2 players)[/i] 8:diamond: 3:club: 2:diamond:
[color=red][b]Hero[/b] bets $9.00[/color], [b]CO[/b] calls $9.00

[b]Turn:[/b] [i]($40.50, 2 players)[/i] 4:spade:
[color=red][b]Hero[/b] bets $20.00[/color], [b]CO[/b] calls $20.00

[b]River:[/b] [i]($80.50, 2 players)[/i] K:diamond:
[b]Hero[/b] ???????

Algumas vezes eu faço check/fold flopn contra este tipo de villan mas tb por vezes faço triple ou double barrel em bluff nesta board. No river quando acertamos penso que talvez seja check/fold porque este tipo de villao secalhar nao torna os seus pares médios em bluffs.

Check/fold river ou shove por valor?

NL25...isto é normal ?

Spez — Thu, 07 Apr 2011 01:49:27 GMT

Ac 9c

Isto há com cada um...pensava eu que nestes niveis seria necessário já alguma cabecinha...e eis que me sai isto...:w00t: (este tipo é um mina)

$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
8 Players

[b]Stacks:[/b]
UTG Laiellin ([color="#0000cc"]$6.05[/color])
UTG+1 IHazCards ([color="#0000cc"]$25[/color])
MP1 aepuppetmaster ([color="#0000cc"]$25.05[/color])
[b]MP2 spez ([color="#0000cc"]$31.74[/color]) [/b]
[b]CO bogdibr ([color="#0000cc"]$20[/color]) [/b]
BTN ncb6000 ([color="#0000cc"]$18.82[/color])
SB SOCAK47 ([color="#0000cc"]$9.75[/color])
BB biiigpapasmurf ([color="#0000cc"]$24.34[/color])

[b]Pre-Flop:[/b] ([color="#0000cc"][b]$0.35[/b][/color], 8 players) [b]spez is MP2[/b] A:club: 9:club:
[color="#777777"][i]3 folds[/i][/color], spez calls $0.25, [color="#cc0000"][b]bogdibr raises to $0.50[/b][/color], [color="#777777"][i]3 folds[/i][/color], spez calls $0.25

[b]Flop:[/b] J:club: 8:club: K:diamond: ([color="#0000cc"][b]$1.35[/b][/color], 2 players)
spez checks, [color="#cc0000"][b]bogdibr bets $1.20[/b][/color], [color="#cc0000"][b]spez goes all-in $31.24[/b][/color], [color="#cc0000"][b]bogdibr goes all-in $18.30[/b][/color]

[b]Turn:[/b] 10:club: ([color="#0000cc"][b]$52.09[/b][/color], 2 players, 2 all-in)

[b]River:[/b] 8:spade: ([color="#0000cc"][b]$52.09[/b][/color], 2 players, 2 all-in)

[b]Final Pot:[/b] [color="#0000cc"][b]$52.09[/b][/color]
spez shows a flush, Ace high
A:club: 9:club:
bogdibr shows two pair, Tens and Eights
10:spade: 3:spade:

spez wins $50.08 (net +$18.34)

bogdibr lost $20

Quem me dizem...que estaria este pato a pensar ? vale ou n vale shove a NFD ?? eu acho sinceramente que sim :P

[b]Motivo do limp[/b] : a mesa estava bastante loose passive, e o meu objectivo era ver o maior numero possivel de flops e jogar o maior numero possivel de mãos contra os patinhos...quando a mesa te deixa fazer isso, eu creio uma boa estratégia, ver um flop barato e apostar por valor sempre que acertas...o problema é que poucas mesas (jogadores) deixam usar esta estratégia, mas contra loose passive creio que resulta pois as CBets deixam de ser eficazes (não é possivel blufar um donk) e eles pagam com maos piores.

NL200: tp2k vs potsize donkbets

PTAlves — Sat, 02 Apr 2011 17:08:12 GMT

Qs Kh

Os dois villan na mao eram meio patos.
O villan que donkou era um 44/6/1.2 com 12 de donkbet.

Foldavam turn?

[b]Full Tilt - $2 NL - Holdem - 9 players[/b]
[i][url=http://www.pokertracker.com]Hand converted by PokerTracker 3[/url][/i]

MP+1: $503.60
LP: $218.15
[b]Hero (CO): $212.05[/b]
BTN: $104.95
SB: $154.00
BB: $213.65
[b]UTG: $480.35[/b]
UTG+1: $292.15
MP: $469.95

SB posts SB $1.00, BB posts BB $2.00

[b]Pre Flop:[/b] [i]($3.00)[/i] [b]Hero[/b] has Q:spade: K:heart:

[b]UTG[/b] calls $2.00, [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [color=red][b]Hero[/b] raises to $8.00[/color], [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], BB calls $6.00, [b]UTG[/b] calls $6.00

[b]Flop:[/b] [i]($25.00, 3 players)[/i] K:club: 3:heart: J:heart:
BB checks, [color=red][b]UTG[/b] bets $25.00[/color], [b]Hero[/b] calls $25.00, [i]fold[/i]

[b]Turn:[/b] [i]($75.00, 2 players)[/i] 8:spade:
[color=red][b]UTG[/b] bets $75.00[/color], [color=red][b]Hero[/b] raises to $179.05 and is all-in[/color], [b]UTG[/b] calls $104.05

[b]River:[/b] [i]($433.10, 2 players)[/i] 6:club:

[b]Hero[/b] shows Q:spade: K:heart: (One Pair, Kings) (PreFlop 66%, Flop 32%, Turn 18%)
[b]UTG[/b] shows 3:spade: J:spade: (Two Pair, Jacks and Threes) (PreFlop 34%, Flop 68%, Turn 82%)
[b]UTG[/b] wins $430.10

NL100: Baby Flush vs agression

PTAlves — Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:04:11 GMT

5d 6d

Vilão 24/13/1.5 com cbet flop 62 e cbet turn 60 em 3251 mãos.
Vilão nao gosta de foldar e está a runnar super hot contra mim este mes.
Quando ele raisa turn axo que ele nao esta a value bettar pior e axo que ele nao bluffa o suficiente para o meu all ser ev+. Alguém folda isto no calor da batalha ou e apenas um cooler se ele tiver melhor?

[b]Full Tilt - $1 NL - Holdem - 9 players[/b]
[i][url=http://www.pokertracker.com]Hand converted by PokerTracker 3[/url][/i]

[b]Hero (BTN): $121.45[/b]
SB: $108.65
BB: $125.00
UTG: $121.65
UTG+1: $50.00
MP: $57.55
MP+1: $101.75
LP: $106.60
[b]CO: $114.30[/b]

SB posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00

[b]Pre Flop:[/b] [i]($1.50)[/i] [b]Hero[/b] has 5:diamond: 6:diamond:

[i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [color=red][b]CO[/b] raises to $2.00[/color], [b]Hero[/b] calls $2.00, [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i]

[b]Flop:[/b] [i]($5.50, 2 players)[/i] 5:heart: Q:diamond: 7:diamond:
[color=red][b]CO[/b] bets $2.00[/color], [b]Hero[/b] calls $2.00

[b]Turn:[/b] [i]($9.50, 2 players)[/i] 9:diamond:
[b]CO[/b] checks, [color=red][b]Hero[/b] bets $7.00[/color], [color=red][b]CO[/b] raises to $27.00[/color], [b]Hero[/b] calls $20.00

[b]River:[/b] [i]($63.50, 2 players)[/i] J:club:
[color=red][b]CO[/b] bets $37.00[/color], [b]Hero[/b] calls $37.00

NL2: KQs

oluaphenriques — Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:57:36 GMT

Ks Qs

Full Tilt Poker $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players -

O vilan era um Fish. Os stats dele com (19) 40/3/20

Hero (BTN): $2.13

SB: $2.26

BB: $3.43

UTG: $3.03

MP: $1.93

CO: $1.37

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with K Q

1 fold, MP calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.08, 2 folds, MP calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.19) K Q 7 (2 players)

MP checks, Hero bets $0.10, MP calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.39) J (2 players)

MP bets $0.39,

HERO ???

Quando apostei no flop e ele fez call estava o colocando numa mão Kx ou Qx, partindo do pressuposto que caso ele tivesse AK ou AQ ele tinha me feito uma 3bet antes do flop.

A minha opinião era que deveria ter dado uma 3bet nele, porque ele podia estar a fazer bluff com a possibilidade de flush na mesa.

O ke acham?

Tenho sempre algumas dificuldades em lidar com estas donkbets.

S&G: AK (Muck)

Mendez — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 01:19:19 GMT

Ac Ks

What is wrong here??

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 3.4 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (9 handed)

PokerStars Converter Tool from [url=http://www.flopturnriver.com]FlopTurnRiver.com[/url]

MP2 (t1630)
MP3 (t1490)
CO (t1610)
Hero (Button) (t1370)
SB (t1400)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)

[color=#009B00][b]Hero's M[/b]: 45.67[/color]

[b]Preflop[/b]: Hero is Button with K[img]http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif[/img], A[img]http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif[/img]
[color=#666666][i]3 folds[/i][/color], MP2 calls t20, [color=#666666][i]2 folds[/i][/color], [color=#CC3333]Hero bets t100[/color], [color=#666666][i]2 folds[/i][/color], MP2 calls t80

[b]Flop[/b]: (t230) 5[img]http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif[/img] [color=#009B00](2 players)[/color]
MP2 checks, [color=#CC3333]Hero bets t150[/color], MP2 calls t150

[b]Turn[/b]: (t530) A[img]http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif[/img] [color=#009B00](2 players)[/color]
MP2 checks, [color=#CC3333]Hero bets t250[/color], MP2 calls t250

[b]River[/b]: (t1030) 4[img]http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif[/img] [color=#009B00](2 players)[/color]
[color=#CC3333]MP2 bets t540[/color], Hero calls t540

[b]Total pot:[/b] t2110

Results:
Hero mucked K[img]http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif[/img], A[img]http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif[/img] (one pair, Aces).
MP2 had 6[img]http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif[/img] (straight, eight high).
Outcome: MP2 won t2110

[u]O que faziam?[/u]

NL5: A10s

oluaphenriques — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 01:46:50 GMT

As 10s

Não tinha stats do vilão porque foi a primeira mão.

[B]$0.02/$0.05 No-Limit Hold'em[COLOR=blue] (6 handed) [/COLOR][/B]

[B]Known players:[/B]
[B](Hero) $5.11[/B]
SB $5.00
BB $5.00
MP2 $7.69
MP3 $5.48
CO $3.93

[B]Preflop: [/B]Hero is BU with
[I][COLOR=grey]MP2 folds[/COLOR][/I], [COLOR=red]MP3 raises to $0.17[/COLOR], [I][COLOR=grey]CO folds[/COLOR][/I], [COLOR=black]Hero calls $0.17[/COLOR], [I][COLOR=grey] 2 folds[/COLOR][/I], [I][COLOR=grey]BB folds[/COLOR][/I].

[B]Flop: [/B]($0.41) [COLOR=blue](2 players)[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]MP3 bets $0.25[/COLOR], [COLOR=black]Hero calls $0.25[/COLOR].

[B]Turn: [/B]($0.91) [COLOR=blue](2 players)[/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]MP3 checks[/COLOR], Hero ????

Gostava de saber de o que acham da minha acção pre-flop e flop e qual devia ser a minha acção no turn.

Caso apostasse pode-se considerar uma Value bet?

NL30 SH: 2 pares vs shove no river

Moreno AA — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 03:09:14 GMT

Qh 8h

Villain com 53/15 47 AFq em 88 mãos

Ongame Network $0.15/$0.30 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players

Hero (BTN): $69.95

SB: $36.51

BB: $20.66

UTG: $21.68

CO: $30.45

Pre Flop: ($0.45) Hero is BTN with 8 Q

1 fold, CO calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1.35, SB calls $1.20, 1 fold, CO calls $1.05

Flop: ($4.35) 9 8 2 (3 players)

SB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $3.30, SB calls $3.30, CO folds

Turn: ($10.95) Q (2 players)

SB bets $5.55, Hero calls $5.55

River: ($22.05) 3 (2 players)

SB bets $26.31 all in

Hero???

Um possível TJ entra no turn mas ele faria shove com essa mão no river?

Também não vejo o villain apostar com tiragem flush...

Resumindo não consigo determinar o range de push dele no river...

Penso que um raise no turn teria sido melhor.

NL30 SH: 2 pares em flop perigoso

Moreno AA — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 02:49:58 GMT

Qc Jd

Villain regular com 9/13, 3% de 3bet em 700 mãos

Ongame Network $0.15/$0.30 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players

CO: $41.99

BTN: $27.24

SB: $29.70

BB: $84.53

Hero (UTG): $68.01

MP: $28.20

Pre Flop: ($0.45) Hero is UTG with Q J

Hero raises to $1.05, 2 folds, BTN calls $1.05, 1 fold, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.30) 4 Q J (3 players)

BB checks, Hero bets $2.55, BTN folds, BB raises to $8, Hero calls $5.45

Turn: ($19.30) K (2 players)

BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB calls $12

River: ($43.30) T (2 players)

BB checks

Hero???

NL2: JJ vs 2 call stations

Fast_cris — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 22:17:58 GMT

Jc Js

Não resisti e tive de dar call ao shove destes 2 call stations.. pois tinha notas deles em que shovavam com quaisquer 2 cartas.. fiquei hesitante por ser contra 2 jogadores..

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NL Holdem $0.02(BB) Replayer
[color=red]Hero ($2.75)
[/color]BB ($0.38)
[color=red]UTG ($1.89)
UTG+1 ($1.68)
[/color]CO ($2)
BTN ($1.51)

Dealt to Hero J:club: J:spade:

[color=red]UTG raises to $0.30, UTG+1 raises to $1.68 (AI), [/color]fold, fold, [color=red]Hero calls $1.67, [/color]fold, [color=red]UTG raises to $1.89 (AI), Hero calls $0.21[/color]

FLOP ($5.48) K:spade: 3:club: 3:spade:

TURN ($5.48) K:spade: 3:club: 3:spade: A:spade:

RIVER ($5.48) K:spade: 3:club: 3:spade: A:spade: T:diamond:

Hero shows J:club: J:spade:
(Pre 57%, Flop 79.7%, Turn 23.8%)

UTG shows A:diamond: J:heart:
(Pre 5%, Flop 4.9%, Turn 32.1%)

UTG+1 shows Q:heart: A:club:
(Pre 38%, Flop 15.4%, Turn 44.0%)

NL25: AQ, middle position

Mendez — Tue, 08 Feb 2011 11:07:51 GMT

Boas,

Não consigo esquecer esta mao:

Cash no limit 0,10-0.25$ (9 jogadores)

pre-flop:

villan, middle position, bets 1$,

Hero, late position, with AQ raises to 3$,

Everybody folds, villan re-raises to 6,50$

Hero Folds,

Jogavam do mesmo modo pre-flop com AQ?

não tenho reads do villan

NL25: SET...bet for value?

Spez — Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:29:24 GMT

2s 2h

$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by [b][url=http://weaktight.com/]weaktight.com[/url][/b]

[b]Stacks:[/b]
UTG Interpleader ([color="#0000cc"]$25.77[/color])
UTG+1 erwinv ([color="#0000cc"]$9.10[/color])
MP1 Rakhmail ([color="#0000cc"]$15.30[/color])
MP2 Fater0407 ([color="#0000cc"]$49.38[/color])
[b]CO Hero ([color="#0000cc"]$27.39[/color]) [/b]
BTN Vudri ([color="#0000cc"]$25.40[/color])
SB Tolik Katala ([color="#0000cc"]$25[/color])
[b]BB tnttrueblood ([color="#0000cc"]$53.90[/color]) [/b]

[b]Pre-Flop:[/b] ([color="#0000cc"][b]$0.35[/b][/color], 8 players) [b]Hero is CO[/b] 2:spade: 2:heart:
[color="#777777"][i]4 folds[/i][/color], [color="#cc0000"][b]Hero raises to $0.75[/b][/color], [color="#777777"][i]2 folds[/i][/color], tnttrueblood calls $0.50

[b]Flop:[/b] 9:club: 8:spade: 2:diamond: ([color="#0000cc"][b]$1.60[/b][/color], 2 players)
tnttrueblood checks, [color="#cc0000"][b]Hero bets $1.20[/b][/color], tnttrueblood calls $1.20

[b]Turn:[/b] 5:club: ([color="#0000cc"][b]$4[/b][/color], 2 players)
tnttrueblood checks, [color="#cc0000"][b]Hero bets $2.60[/b][/color], tnttrueblood calls $2.60

[b]River:[/b] 8:diamond: ([color="#0000cc"][b]$9.20[/b][/color], 2 players)
[color="#cc0000"][b]tnttrueblood bets $3.50[/b][/color], [color="#cc0000"][b]Hero raises to $7[/b][/color], [color="#cc0000"][b]tnttrueblood raises to $15.50[/b][/color], Hero calls $8.50

Stats vilão : 42/15/0.8

O raise à donk bet no river do vilão depois de pagar 2 streets é um raise por valor ou um perfeito erro ?

Já que o range dele é claramente overpair à board, trips 8 (estou à frente), over sets (e portanto um melhor flush e estou atrás) ou 2 pares 8x que se transformou num boat é uma aposta porvalou ou estou a transformar o meu boat num bluff ?

NL2€: Q9s

Fast_cris — Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:52:31 GMT

Qc 9c

Devia ter apostado no Turn.. nao era?

[b]PokerStars - €0.02 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players[/b]
[i][url=http://www.pokertracker.com]Hand converted by PokerTracker 3[/url][/i]

SB: €2.00
BB: €3.67
UTG: €1.27
[b]Hero (UTG+1): €3.31[/b]
MP: €0.91
MP+1: €2.04
LP: €6.20
CO: €1.45
[b]BTN: €1.73[/b]

SB posts SB €0.01, BB posts BB €0.02

[b]Pre Flop:[/b] [i](€0.03)[/i] [b]Hero[/b] has Q:club: 9:club:

[i]fold[/i], [color=red][b]Hero[/b] raises to €0.08[/color], [i]fold[/i], MP+1 calls €0.08, [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [b]BTN[/b] calls €0.08, [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i]

[b]Flop:[/b] [i](€0.27, 3 players)[/i] K:club: 9:heart: A:club:
[color=red][b]Hero[/b] bets €0.14[/color], [i]fold[/i], [color=red][b]BTN[/b] raises to €0.28[/color], [b]Hero[/b] calls €0.14

[b]Turn:[/b] [i](€0.83, 2 players)[/i] 6:club:
[b]Hero[/b] checks, [b]BTN[/b] checks

[b]River:[/b] [i](€0.83, 2 players)[/i] K:spade:
[color=red][b]Hero[/b] bets €0.56[/color], [color=red][b]BTN[/b] raises to €1.12[/color], [color=red][b]Hero[/b] raises to €2.49[/color], [b]BTN[/b] calls €0.25 and is all-in

NL25: AK OOP

Spez — Mon, 27 Dec 2010 13:11:41 GMT

Ah Kh

$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
7 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by [b][url=http://weaktight.com/]weaktight.com[/url][/b]

[b]Stacks:[/b]
UTG Mynn Kim ([color="#0000cc"]$30.82[/color])
[b]UTG+1 TiltFreak1 ([color="#0000cc"]$44.82[/color]) [/b]
[b]MP bigtruckpei ([color="#0000cc"]$19.30[/color]) [/b]
CO ALL IN ADICT ([color="#0000cc"]$13.87[/color])
BTN ASSOL_2009 ([color="#0000cc"]$25[/color])
SB dmbowler ([color="#0000cc"]$17.25[/color])
[b]BB Hero ([color="#0000cc"]$26.46[/color]) [/b]

[b]Pre-Flop:[/b] ([color="#0000cc"][b]$0.35[/b][/color], 7 players) [b]Hero is BB[/b] A:heart: K:heart:
[color="#777777"][i]1 fold[/i][/color], [color="#cc0000"][b]TiltFreak1 raises to $0.75[/b][/color], bigtruckpei calls $0.75, [color="#777777"][i]3 folds[/i][/color], Hero calls $0.50

[b]Flop:[/b] 10:diamond: 4:diamond: K:spade: ([color="#0000cc"][b]$2.35[/b][/color], 3 players)
Hero checks, [color="#cc0000"][b]TiltFreak1 bets $1.75[/b][/color], [color="#777777"][i]bigtruckpei folds[/i][/color], [color="#cc0000"][b]Hero raises to $5.75[/b][/color], [color="#cc0000"][b]TiltFreak1 raises to $12.50[/b][/color], [color="#cc0000"][b]Hero goes all-in $25.71[/b][/color]

Esta linha de jogo faz sentido ?

NL25: KK DEEP vs 2 fish

Spez — Sat, 01 Jan 2011 14:26:08 GMT

Ks Kd

Stats

kennylin888 78/26/0.6 (tinha perdido pot 2 mãos atrás comigo apanha em bluff no river com QT vs meus 2 pares AJ)
arcchhi 80/36/10 (agressivo, a fazer todo o tipo de movimentos)

$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by [b][url=http://weaktight.com/]weaktight.com[/url][/b]

[b]Stacks:[/b]
[b]UTG Hero ([color="#0000cc"]$44.44[/color]) [/b]
UTG+1 Blue Eyed Ninja ([color="#0000cc"]$7.55[/color])
MP1 xarly74 ([color="#0000cc"]$19.53[/color])
[b]MP2 kennylin888 ([color="#0000cc"]$14.20[/color]) [/b]
[b]CO YoungStevie ([color="#0000cc"]$19.92[/color]) [/b]
[b]BTN pepe2011 ([color="#0000cc"]$21.24[/color]) [/b]
[b]SB arcchhi ([color="#0000cc"]$42.24[/color]) [/b]
BB T-diddy4 ([color="#0000cc"]$9.50[/color])

[b]Pre-Flop:[/b] ([color="#0000cc"][b]$0.35[/b][/color], 8 players) [b]Hero is UTG[/b] K:spade: K:diamond:
[color="#cc0000"][b]Hero raises to $1[/b][/color], [color="#777777"][i]2 folds[/i][/color], kennylin888 calls $1, YoungStevie calls $1, pepe2011 calls $1, [color="#cc0000"][b]arcchhi raises to $1.75[/b][/color], [color="#777777"][i]1 fold[/i][/color], Hero calls $0.75, kennylin888 calls $0.75, YoungStevie calls $0.75, pepe2011 calls $0.75

[i]O meu primeiro dilema : KK deep...jogar KK preflop all in com 100BB não tinha duvidas, mas KK hesitei e pensei, mesmo q faça 4Bet vou levar call destes 2 fish e vejo o flop 3way num pote monstro...contra sabe-se lá o quê...se fizer call à 3bet que é minima (aqui também me fez hesitar...AA era capaz de fazer isso para incrementar o pote, tal como QQ...mas vindo deste...espero tudo) deixo o agrodonk betar pior e com sorte ainda apanho o outro fish).[/i]

[b]Flop:[/b] Q:spade: 9:heart: 4:spade: ([color="#0000cc"][b]$9[/b][/color], 5 players)
[color="#cc0000"][b]arcchhi bets $2.49[/b][/color], Hero calls $2.49, kennylin888 calls $2.49, [color="#777777"][i]2 folds[/i][/color]

[i]Flop razoável para mim, QQ asssusta-me um pouco, mas mesmo assim...plano...call any, rezar para q não venha um A e deixar o agrodonk apostar pior e donk fazer call[/i]

[b]Turn:[/b] J:diamond: ([color="#0000cc"][b]$16.47[/b][/color], 3 players)
[color="#cc0000"][b]arcchhi bets $8[/b][/color], Hero calls $8, [color="#cc0000"][b]kennylin888 goes all-in $9.96[/b][/color], arcchhi calls $1.96, Hero calls $1.96

[i]mau...agora as coisas compliam-se...2 pares é uma forte possibilidade, tal como uma S8...aposta metade do pot...value bet ou scared bet ?...2:1 e ainda com o donk que vai de certeza fazer call incrementando as odds...mantemos o plano...call.[/i]

[b]River:[/b] 4:heart: ([color="#0000cc"][b]$46.35[/b][/color], 3 players, 1 all-in)
[color="#cc0000"][b]arcchhi bets $8[/b][/color], Hero calls $8

[i]4...não sei que pense...se o agrodonk estava a apostar pior continua atrás...aposta 1/5 do pot...isto é definitivamente call[/i]

Comentários...esta linha faz sentido ? jogar deep não é fácil...nada fácil, top pair baixa de valor de forma butal.
[b]
1º tópico de 2011 é meu :) weeeee, BOM ANO entusiastas do Poker[/b]

NL25: KK SB

Spez — Mon, 27 Dec 2010 13:17:13 GMT

Kc Kd

$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
7 Players
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[b]Stacks:[/b]
UTG jeffk66 ([color="#0000cc"]$26.88[/color])
UTG+1 pistaneni ([color="#0000cc"]$25.35[/color])
[b]MP mrbapp ([color="#0000cc"]$27.51[/color]) [/b]
CO deqPL ([color="#0000cc"]$25[/color])
BTN Landon207 ([color="#0000cc"]$22.68[/color])
SB Arcturus Kirwin ([color="#0000cc"]$8.71[/color])
[b]BB Hero ([color="#0000cc"]$25[/color]) [/b]

[b]Pre-Flop:[/b] ([color="#0000cc"][b]$0.35[/b][/color], 7 players) [b]Hero is BB[/b] K:club: K:diamond:
[color="#777777"][i]2 folds[/i][/color], [color="#cc0000"][b]mrbapp raises to $1[/b][/color], [color="#777777"][i]3 folds[/i][/color], Hero calls $0.75

[b]Flop:[/b] 4:heart: 7:club: 9:spade: ([color="#0000cc"][b]$2.10[/b][/color], 2 players)
Hero checks, [color="#cc0000"][b]mrbapp bets $1.75[/b][/color], [color="#cc0000"][b]Hero raises to $5.50[/b][/color], [b][u]mrbapp goes all-in $26.51[/u][/b]

[b]
E agora ?[/b]

Q1 : Call em vez de 3bet na blind é uma linha válida ? Justifica-se jogar em call para manter o range mais fraco do vilão em jogo ?

Q2 : Call ao shove ?...aquele JAM ou é overpair TT+ ou set...não o estou a ver fazer jam com uma OESD

NL25: JAM 2 PARES

Spez — Fri, 21 Jan 2011 04:28:07 GMT

5d 7d

$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
8 Players
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[b]Stacks:[/b]
UTG Smoking Dough ([color="#0000cc"]$25[/color])
UTG+1 kcm4000 ([color="#0000cc"]$13.50[/color])
MP1 Bossal2009 ([color="#0000cc"]$25[/color])
[b]MP2 So Cold979 ([color="#0000cc"]$30.08[/color]) [/b]
[b]CO Hero ([color="#0000cc"]$29.84[/color]) [/b]
BTN SlamDunk1128 ([color="#0000cc"]$28.88[/color])
[b]SB sergoon65 ([color="#0000cc"]$25[/color]) [/b]
[b]BB josh_scoby ([color="#0000cc"]$59.44[/color]) [/b]

[b]Pre-Flop:[/b] ([color="#0000cc"][b]$0.35[/b][/color], 8 players) [b]Hero is CO[/b] 7:diamond: 5:diamond:
[color="#777777"][i]3 folds[/i][/color], So Cold979 calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, [color="#777777"][i]1 fold[/i][/color], sergoon65 calls $0.15, [color="#cc0000"][b]josh_scoby raises to $0.75[/b][/color], So Cold979 calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, sergoon65 calls $0.50

[b]Flop:[/b] 7:club: 5:spade: 2:diamond: ([color="#0000cc"][b]$3[/b][/color], 4 players)
sergoon65 checks, [color="#cc0000"][b]josh_scoby bets $0.75[/b][/color], So Cold979 calls $0.75, [color="#cc0000"][b]Hero raises to $3[/b][/color], [color="#777777"][i]sergoon65 folds[/i][/color], [color="#cc0000"][b]josh_scoby raises to $5.25[/b][/color], [color="#777777"][i]So Cold979 folds[/i][/color], [color="#cc0000"][b]Hero goes all-in $29.09[/b][/color], josh_scoby calls $23.84

[b]Turn:[/b] 2:heart: ([color="#0000cc"][b]$61.93[/b][/color], 2 players, 1 all-in)

[b]River:[/b] 4:heart: ([color="#0000cc"][b]$61.93[/b][/color], 2 players, 1 all-in)

[b]Final Pot:[/b] [color="#0000cc"][b]$61.93[/b][/color]
Hero shows two pair, Sevens and Fives
7:diamond: 5:diamond:
josh_scoby shows...

stas do vilão 42/10/7

A minha ideia de overlimp era mesmo a de jogar o máximo de pots em posião contra o vilão.

O raise dele é um range pequeno visto ele so raisar 10% das mãos AA-77 AJ+ A8s+ KQ KTs

Suited gappers pareceu-me uma boa mão para stackar o agro mais ainda com odds por ter mais 2 callers.

2 pares no flop, ele dá a cebt, 1 call, até aqui perfeito, raise por valor, 3bet...era mesmo o que queria...1 fold...ele está a jogar um over pair ou um set...como é dificil acertar sets...tenho de estar à frente e portanto altura de meter todo o dinheiro no pot, o agro com overpair JJ+ vai dar call..vai ser um bom pot...

[b]Seguiam esta linha...???[/b]

NL2€: AA

Fast_cris — Fri, 07 Jan 2011 01:43:58 GMT

Ac As

Pagariam o raise do BTN...

[b]PokerStars - €0.02 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players[/b]
[i][url=http://www.pokertracker.com]Hand converted by PokerTracker 3[/url][/i]

CO: €2.06
[b]BTN: €3.38[/b]
SB: €1.79
BB: €0.78
UTG: €1.98
[b]Hero (UTG+1): €5.28[/b]
MP: €6.35
MP+1: €3.82
LP: €0.66

SB posts SB €0.01, BB posts BB €0.02

[b]Pre Flop:[/b] [i](€0.03)[/i] [b]Hero[/b] has A:club: A:spade:

[color=red]UTG raises to €0.08[/color], [color=red][b]Hero[/b] raises to €0.24[/color], [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [b]BTN[/b] calls €0.24, [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], UTG calls €0.16

[b]Flop:[/b] [i](€0.75, 3 players)[/i] Q:spade: 9:spade: K:spade:
UTG checks, [b]Hero[/b] checks, [b]BTN[/b] checks

[b]Turn:[/b] [i](€0.75, 3 players)[/i] Q:diamond:
UTG checks, [b]Hero[/b] checks, [b]BTN[/b] checks

[b]River:[/b] [i](€0.75, 3 players)[/i] 2:heart:
UTG checks, [color=red][b]Hero[/b] bets €0.36[/color], [color=red][b]BTN[/b] raises to €2.00[/color], [i]fold[/i], [b]Hero[/b] ....??????

NL2€: K7s

Fast_cris — Mon, 10 Jan 2011 21:18:58 GMT

Ks 7s

Que faço no river? nao tenho stats do villan

[b]PokerStars - €0.02 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 6 players[/b]
[i][url=http://www.pokertracker.com]Hand converted by PokerTracker 3[/url][/i]

CO: €2.07
BTN: €2.04
[b]Hero (SB): €1.68[/b]
BB: €1.38
UTG: €0.75
[b]MP: €1.54[/b]

[b]Hero[/b] posts SB €0.01, BB posts BB €0.02

[b]Pre Flop:[/b] [i](€0.03)[/i] [b]Hero[/b] has 7:spade: K:spade:

[i]fold[/i], [b]MP[/b] calls €0.02, [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [b]Hero[/b] calls €0.01, BB checks

[b]Flop:[/b] [i](€0.06, 3 players)[/i] 8:spade: Q:diamond: 9:spade:
[color=red][b]Hero[/b] bets €0.04[/color], [i]fold[/i], [b]MP[/b] calls €0.04

[b]Turn:[/b] [i](€0.14, 2 players)[/i] J:club:
[color=red][b]Hero[/b] bets €0.08[/color], [b]MP[/b] calls €0.08

[b]River:[/b] [i](€0.30, 2 players)[/i] 6:spade:
[color=red][b]Hero[/b] bets €0.24[/color], [color=red][b]MP[/b] raises to €1.40 and is all-in[/color], [b]Hero[/b] ??????

NL10: TT em posição

allex_7 — Wed, 10 Nov 2010 13:56:39 GMT

Tc Td

Que acham do segundo barril? a board tem muitos draws, decidi disparar.

[b]PokerStars - $0.10 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 8 players[/b]
[i][url=http://www.pokertracker.com]Hand converted by PokerTracker 3[/url][/i]

CO: $11.54
[b]Hero (BTN): $10.00[/b]
SB: $10.00
BB: $10.00
UTG: $10.44
UTG+1: $6.00
MP: $10.00
MP+1: $11.42

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

[b]Pre Flop:[/b] [i]($0.15)[/i] [b]Hero[/b] has T:club: T:diamond:

UTG calls $0.10, [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [color=red][b]Hero[/b] raises to $0.40[/color], [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], UTG calls $0.30

[b]Flop:[/b] [i]($0.95, 2 players)[/i] Q:heart: 2:heart: 9:club:
UTG checks, [color=red][b]Hero[/b] bets $0.60[/color], UTG calls $0.60

[b]Turn:[/b] [i]($2.15, 2 players)[/i] 3:diamond:
UTG checks, [color=red][b]Hero[/b] bets $1.50[/color], [i]fold[/i]

[b]Hero[/b] wins $2.05

NL25: JJ 3bet flop

Spez — Wed, 22 Dec 2010 04:50:57 GMT

Jc Jh

Mais uma vez sem stats do vilão

$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by [b][url=http://weaktight.com/]weaktight.com[/url][/b]

[b]Stacks:[/b]
UTG liangmin ([color="#0000cc"]$28.20[/color])
UTG+1 pennstate436 ([color="#0000cc"]$60.60[/color])
MP1 Prinzenrolle1 ([color="#0000cc"]$25.79[/color])
MP2 mikeandyuri ([color="#0000cc"]$25[/color])
[b]CO kovant ([color="#0000cc"]$25.25[/color]) [/b]
[b]BTN Hero ([color="#0000cc"]$25.35[/color]) [/b]
SB erwinv ([color="#0000cc"]$8.45[/color])
BB rotting ([color="#0000cc"]$25.35[/color])

[b]Pre-Flop:[/b] ([color="#0000cc"][b]$0.35[/b][/color], 8 players) [b]Hero is BTN[/b] J:club: J:heart:
[color="#777777"][i]4 folds[/i][/color], [color="#cc0000"][b]kovant raises to $0.85[/b][/color], Hero calls $0.85, [color="#777777"][i]2 folds[/i][/color]

[b]Flop:[/b] 9:heart: 5:diamond: 2:diamond: ([color="#0000cc"][b]$2.05[/b][/color], 2 players)
[color="#cc0000"][b]kovant bets $1.25[/b][/color], [color="#cc0000"][b]Hero raises to $4.40[/b][/color], [color="#cc0000"][b]kovant raises to $13[/b][/color]

A) [b]Fold [/b](estamos a largar o que parece uma boa parte da nossa equidade, para o q pode ser um draw ou um underpair ou mesmo um bluff, mas o range de raise do vilão neste flop é muito pequeno TT+ ou um SET, tudo o demais é apenas uma perquena percentagem do seu range)

B) [b]Call [/b](preparados para foldar se bater o diamond? e um A, K ou Q no flop ? e se for um tijolo tipo 2:club: vamos provavelmente levar com outra aposta...pagamos ?!)

C) [b]JAM[/b]! (sim pq 4bet aqui é jam directo) embora as odds para um flush draw com 2 overs (assim de repente lembro-me de AKs) serem de basicamente 50/50 a realidade é que já existe bastante dead money no pot e um shove pode apanhar esse dinheiro e ainda temos 2 outs se tivermos batidos para um set ou overpair...are you ready to gamble ?

Outra pergunta : [b]Fazia sentido o 3bet preflop ?[/b]

NL100: Spot Complicado Posflop

PTAlves — Sat, 18 Dec 2010 14:09:35 GMT

9d 9s

MP villan é perdedor - 35/1
LP Villan é um regular ganhador - 16/13/4.4 com 11.76 de raise flop em 459 mãos
[b]Full Tilt - $1 NL - Holdem - 9 players[/b]
[i][url=http://www.pokertracker.com]Hand converted by PokerTracker 3[/url][/i]

SB: $100.00
BB: $100.00
[b]Hero (UTG): $155.30[/b]
UTG+1: $103.90
MP: $33.75
MP+1: $93.10
[b]LP: $145.10[/b]
CO: $35.00
BTN: $71.90

SB posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00

[b]Pre Flop:[/b] [i]($1.50)[/i] [b]Hero[/b] has 9:diamond: 9:spade:

[color=red][b]Hero[/b] raises to $3.00[/color], [i]fold[/i], MP calls $3.00, [i]fold[/i], [b]LP[/b] calls $3.00, [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i]

[b]Flop:[/b] [i]($10.50, 3 players)[/i] 9:heart: T:club: J:club:
[color=red][b]Hero[/b] bets $6.00[/color], [i]fold[/i], [color=red][b]LP[/b] raises to $19.00[/color], [b]Hero[/b] ?????

Spot complicado porque estamos 145bbs deep. Que faziam no flop e plano para turn e river?

PL25: AQ

Spez — Sat, 18 Dec 2010 22:04:27 GMT

As Qs

Sem stats do vilão...

$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker

7 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by [b][url=http://weaktight.com/]weaktight.com[/url][/b]

[b]Stacks:[/b]
UTG aaapost ([color="#0000cc"]$15.72[/color])
UTG+1 evilgavin ([color="#0000cc"]$25[/color])
[b]MP slickwilly127 ([color="#0000cc"]$19.82[/color]) [/b]
[b]CO Hero ([color="#0000cc"]$29.21[/color]) [/b]
[b]BTN socraticfury ([color="#0000cc"]$6.50[/color]) [/b]
SB M0r1el ([color="#0000cc"]$25.25[/color])
BB Dirtydawg67 ([color="#0000cc"]$25.08[/color])

[b]Pre-Flop:[/b] ([color="#0000cc"][b]$0.35[/b][/color], 7 players) [b]Hero is CO[/b] A:spade: Q:spade:
[color="#777777"][i]2 folds[/i][/color], slickwilly127 calls $0.25, [color="#cc0000"][b]Hero raises to $1[/b][/color], socraticfury calls $1, [color="#777777"][i]2 folds[/i][/color], slickwilly127 calls $0.75

[b]Flop:[/b] Q:diamond: J:spade: 7:club: ([color="#0000cc"][b]$3.35[/b][/color], 3 players)
[color="#cc0000"][b]slickwilly127 bets $0.25[/b][/color], [color="#cc0000"][b]Hero raises to $2.75[/b][/color], [color="#777777"][i]socraticfury folds[/i][/color], slickwilly127 calls $2.50

[b]Turn:[/b] Q:club: ([color="#0000cc"][b]$8.85[/b][/color], 2 players)
slickwilly127 checks, [color="#cc0000"][b]Hero bets $7.25[/b][/color], slickwilly127 calls $7.25

[b]River:[/b] 8:spade: ([color="#0000cc"][b]$23.35[/b][/color], 2 players)
slickwilly127 checks,

[b]Hero ???[/b]